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Saturday, June 25, 2011

89 Republicans Vote AGAINST De-funding Obama's Illegal War in Libya

Obama's illegal war in Libya is costing us nearly $9.5 million every single day. Congress held two votes on June 24, 2011 regarding Obama's Libyan Lunacy.

The first vote admonished Obama for his illegal war in Libya and the House overwhelmingly spanked Captain WTF, with 70 Democrats joining in, including progressive Congressman Jerrold Nadler, from New York City, who said that Obama was becoming an "absolute monarch". (H/T The Lonely Conservative)

The second vote was to de-fund Obama's illegal war in Libya (where he has our troops helping al qaeda and other jihadis who have a history of helping to kill Americans). That vote failed, thanks in part to the 89 Republicans who joined 149 Democrats in voting against the measure. (See who voted how HERE)
Via The Last Refuge:
The attempt at cutting off the funding for the war failed, even though by an overwhelming majority, most, believe the war is illegal, some GOP members jumped ship and voted to continue to fund it.   Here is the update on that aspect:
House Votes Down GOP Attempt At Defunding Libyan WarWASHINGTON — The House has turned back a Republican-led effort to cut off money for military hostilities in the Libyan war. The vote was 238-180. It came after the House had overwhelmingly rejected a largely symbolic measure to give President Barack Obama the authority to continue U.S. involvement in the military operation against Moammar Gadhafi’s forces.
The funding measure would have barred drone attacks and airstrikes but allowed the United States to continue actions in support of NATO. (article)
If the attempt had been successful Obama would have been pinned against the wall and essentially would have needed to either a) Go to congress and ask for permission, or b) remove American troops from offensive combat operations.   However, the vote failed.
Here is the ROLL CALL VOTE
You will note that Darryl Issa, Allen West, Michele Bachmann and Paul Ryan voted arm in arm support with Nancy Pelosi, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and the other rabid progressives to continue this constitutional violation and allow President Obama to continue violating the law. READ THE WHOLE THING
The Other McCain notes irony of Dem support for Obama's illegal war. Stacy's got some good snark going there:
Today, 149 Democrats voted against defunding Obama’s Illegal War™ in Libya. Our nation now awaits the onset of Code Pink peace protests against such bloodthirsty imperialist warmongers as Nancy Pelosi, Raul Grijalva and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. RTR
Josh Rogin writes at The Cable about some of the motivation on both sides of the aisle for voting against the attempt to de-fund Obama's illegal war in Libya; apparently, the wording of the bill may have actually given a backdoor endorsement by Congress for Obama's illegal war in Libya:
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton tried to put lipstick on the pig of today's admonishment of the administration by Congress,  saying that she was "gratified that the House has decisively rejected efforts to limit funding" for the intervention. She was referring to the House's rejection of a bill put forth by Rep. Tom Rooney (R-FL) that would have shut off the spigot of funds for most, but not all, U.S. military operations in Libya.
The vote failed 180-238 - but, in fact, there were more than enough lawmakers to pass the measure. Of the 149 Democrats who stuck with the president, up to 70 of them are totally opposed to the Libya intervention and want to see it completely defunded as soon as possible. They voted "no" on the Rooney's bill because they thought it was too weak, did not cut off all funds, and implicitly authorized the intervention.  
These 70 Democrats make up the Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC), the largest caucus within the House Democratic Caucus, whose leadership includes Reps. Mike Honda (D-CA), Barbara Lee (D-CA), Lynn Woolsey (D-CA) and Raul Grijalva (D-AZ).
"Members of Congress voted no because the bill provided funding and legal authority for everything we're currently doing. It was back door authorization. Members didn't support authorizing what we're doing now in Libya," Michael Shank, Honda's spokesman, told The Cable. "The majority of the CPC voted no on the Rooney vote because of this."
In other words, if the GOP had put forth a stronger anti-Libya resolution, the progressive Democrats would have joined them and it would have passed. Despite what Clinton or other administration officials may say, the bill's failure cannot be seen as an endorsement of the Libya war.
The argument that the Rooney bill indirectly authorized the Libya war was made Friday on the House floor by many, including Rep. Tom McClintock (R-CA), who said:
"This bill purports to cut off funding for combat in Libya. In doing so it simply forbids what the constitution already forbids, the waging of war without explicit congressional authorization. But then it specifically grants to the president what up until now he has completely lacked: Congressional authority to engage in every conceivable belligerent act short of actually pulling the trigger."
"Refueling bombers on their way to targets, identifying and selecting targets, guiding munitions to their targets, logistical support, operational planning... these are all acts of war in direct support of belligerence at war and this bill authorizes them," he said. "Let's not enter a war through the backdoor when we have already decided not to enter it through the front." RTWT
Which begs the question, why doesn't someone in Congress put together a strong bill to truly stop Obama's illegal war in Libya?  Also, for that matter, why don't they just go ahead and impeach Obama for his illegal war in Libya, which is an impeachable offense?

Our "representatives" in Congress really do have some explaining to do; perhaps they've forgotten that if they continue to fail us, that we the people have the ability to see to their removal via primary and general elections which aren't all that far away. I think a lot politicians assume that we'll forget all about their repeated betrayals of us by the time we get to vote on whether these pols get to keep their jobs, but they need to realize that we're awake, we are paying attention, and we are not amused by their shenanigans.

This post is linked at The Other McCain. Big thanks to Wombat-socho!

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SignPainterGuy said...

This is not amusing nor is it satisfying in any sense, but since Issa and West voted to continue funding, I`m going to trust that they know or see something I don`t. Let`s back up and watch and listen for some clarifying explanations before we go all ballistic on them.

We all know that there is no straight road from A thru B to C when dealing w/ the Middle East. We probably all agree that Quadaphee must go and understand that the Muslim Brotherhood is waiting in the wings to fill the void (and what the MB plans to do once in place), but I am going to hold out hope that our military planners have secrets as yet not leaked for dealing with the situation .

(Standing back, chin in hand, tapping toes)

Adrienne said...

The whole situation re: the funding, has me very confused. 

Hardnox said...

From what I have researched, the defunding legislation did not go far enough as it had some loopholes therefore they voted against it.

SignPainterGuy said...

Wait a minute, hold on here, back the truck up !!

A "defunding" bill has loopholes in it. That means it wouldn`t stop all funding; it would allow some funding to sneak through , right ? So they voted NOT to pass the defunding bill, thus allowing more than just "some" funding for Ogafferistic`s war in Libya ?

There HAS to be more that we`re not be shown here...... There seems to be support for the "non-combative, support" role for the US to be involved there. AND, it`s being "leaked" that we are trying to kill Quadaphee. OK.....what else is going on ? Are we secretly paying the MB and the resistance forces and the protesters and .........?

Hardnox said...

Bingo!  You win the secret decorder ring!

Zilla of the Resistance said...

The problem is that the Retardicans wrote a limp bill which would have given
backdoor Congressional approval for Obama's illegal war in Libya. The bill was
destined for failure (see my post above). So what I want to know is, why won't
the dummies write a GOOD bill, which defunds it without the stupid loopholes &
backdoor support? Why are our 'lawmakers" so freaking inept that they can't
write a simple bill that can pass? BOTH SIDES of the aisle said they'd vote FOR
a bill defunding Libya if it didn't suck.


Hardnox said...

Congress rarely authors the bills.  Lobbyists do it now.

It is way past time that this new tradition stop.  Congresscritters have staffs, some of them huge, so it wouldn't be too much to ask that they write the bills.  After all it is their job.

Our ship of state has many leaks in it.  I wonder if it can be repaired.  I doubt that it will anytime soon if ever.

Your question about Impeachment is valid but I doubt anyone will touch it for fear of being labeled a racist.  On the other hand had this been a republican admin the left would have drawn up legislation a dozen times already.

SignPainterGuy said...

The Apollo Alliance and the Tides Foundation were the (co-) authors of "Porkulus" and "Obamascare" (or is that "Obama doesn`t Care ?) . No one who would admit to knowing what was in the bills could explain what was in them. The porkulus bill had do be for $787B, but no one said "for what", and Piglousy said, "We had to pass it to know what was in O`scare".  Of course she didn`t know, she didn`t write it ! And which "attorney / congressman" mocked us for calling on them to "read the bill" ? And "needing two attorneys to read it for him" ? Wasn`t he also the wizard of smart who thought Guam might "capsize" if we send too many troops there ?

Impeachment of Zero would also ID the accomplices in congress who knew he was inelligable but approved his candidacy anyway. "Racist" charges would fly, yes, but the real fear of riots runs rampant among our congress-critters. There`s far more than enough evidence for impeachment; it`s a question of "how far to go" and "how many to -" prosecute !!

And yes, I believe WE are secretly funding everybody / every side of the war in Libya and elsewhere !

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